Yet Another Year of the Linux Desktop?

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  • user warning: Table 'cache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache SET data = '<p>I wrote a comment to an <a href=\"http://lwn.net/Articles/362343/\" target=\"_lwnarticle\">LWN news blurb</a> referring to a story about the future of Linux was in Google Chrome OS. The post was so long that I decided to cross post it here. :)</p>\n<p>- - - - -</p>\n<p>I assume you (the person on LWN who wrote the comment I was replying to) were being sarcastic when you said that 10-20 million Linux desktops don\'t count. I\'d argue that the numbers are actually larger than that (probably by as much as 2x) but let\'s stick with a medium number of 15 million... for my discussion below.</p>\n<p>Some people want commercial software on Linux, some don\'t. I attended the Utah Open Source Conference 2009 in Oct. and attended a presentation by a big wig from Adobe where he talked about FLOSS and Adobe. Of course the usual question came up about when will we get Photoshop and various other Adobe products for Linux and the answer was something like, \"when there are enough Linux users to guarantee sales of at least 50 million copies\". That is a rather high hurdle. Seriously, you have to sell 50 million copies of something before it becomes profitable? What a poorly run company you must have.</p>\n<p>But seriously, there are enormous opportunitities in a number of software genres for FLOSS shareware... or FLOSS support funded development. Educational software for K-12, games, small business apps.</p>\n<p>The truth is that there is a huge software catalog currently available for Linux any anyone who has been using it knows that. There are some bald spots but those are where many of the opportunities lie.</p>\n<p>We believe in the Open Source development model and I also believe in Free Software... and yes there are a number of viable business models available for those groups who can find good business-minded leaders.</p>\n<p>Mac hardware sales (especially laptops) have supposedly fluctuated up and down over the last few years. Yes, Mac OS X has poached some Linux users. Anyone who has been to a Linux or FLOSS oriented conference can tell you a significant number of presenters seem to be on Mac laptops... but the good thing about that is how stubborn Apple is. They will only allow Mac OS X to run on their hardware, which is very limited in the variety of hardware components they ship. Mac OS X\'s growth potential is limited to the number of computers Apple can make and sell. While for a single hardware company they do very well compared to folks like HP and Dell (not talking servers or netbooks of course), a significant portion of their income comes from iPods, iPhones, and the iTunes Music Store. Their concentration on their computers has waned and I don\'t see that changing unless they finally decide to offer Mac OS X on non-Mac hardware. I don\'t see that happening... mainly because of the barriers that exist making it work with a larger variety of hardware that exists in the generic PC market. Apple seems to have basically thrown in the towel with regards to servers.</p>\n<p>Apple computers are really just another hardware platform targeted by Linux.</p>\n<p>I don\'t really care if Linux ever goes \"mainstream\". I\'ve been using it as my primary desktop since 1995 and it has gotten so good these days... and as long as it continues to progress, that is all I care about. I have fears that if Linux ever does go mainstream, I\'ll have to suffer as it is dumbed down for computer novices... but luckily with the number and variety of Linux distros that are out there, that probably won\'t be a problem.</p>\n<p>I really don\'t want to have to deal with masses of computer newbies asking me Linux questions and expecting free support... because I\'m a Linux guy... and giving free support to friends is what I\'ve been doing for years anyway.</p>\n<p>The reality is that 1-5% of the desktop market share actually is a significant number of computers and a large userbase. If Nintendo can make a fortune on the Wii... with about the same userbase as Desktop Linux, why can\'t software vendors? I realise that with consoles, hardware diversity doesn\'t exist and that the hardware diversity that exists in the generic PC market is a barrier for some software (particularly games and multimedia apps) but come on. Many FLOSS projects have accepted the challenge as well as a handful of companies... but it would be great if more commercial FLOSS could fill in the cracks.</p>\n<p>Of course the other major barrier that exists is getting more OEMs to offer Linux as an option on more of their hardware... and not to charge more for it.</p>\n<br class=\"clear\" />', created = 1411265055, expire = 1411351455, headers = '' WHERE cid = 'filter:1:652354fb7a62f276d5cc98f8d31cb5a6' in /home/dowdle/public_html/montanalinux/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 121.
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  • user warning: Table 'cache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache SET data = '<p>I agree with your idea about Apple; they should allow users to run OSX on whatever hardware platform they want, as long as they legally own the software. I guess they just don\'t want to have to deal with the large variety of generic PC hardware that\'s out there, and would rather consolidate hardware/software development (as they have always done in the past). However, I believe many PC users would choose OSX over Win7 given a choice.</p>\n<p>What Apple could do is market a separate PC Edition of OSX (so as to consolidate hardware support into this edition and leave their reliable Apple-only OSX untouched), then use their traditionally strong PR department to ensure strong retail sales of this version of OSX and recoup their obviously heavy development costs. It would be an ingenious move.</p>\n<br class=\"clear\" />', created = 1411265055, expire = 1411351455, headers = '' WHERE cid = 'filter:1:8e06e93424ce012031d32f4bd2f5df15' in /home/dowdle/public_html/montanalinux/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 121.
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  • user warning: Table 'cache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache SET data = '<p>It is true that we have only a small number of Linux users in the world.... but we must also consider that the number of Linux users are increasing day by day! The future might be a Linux only world...... :D</p>\n<br class=\"clear\" />', created = 1411265055, expire = 1411351455, headers = '' WHERE cid = 'filter:1:6e0ba98fe488d43aebdd206eb22a68cd' in /home/dowdle/public_html/montanalinux/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 121.
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  • user warning: Table 'cache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired query: UPDATE cache SET data = '<p>It\'s only because of the constant competition from their peers that all the operating systems keep getting better. When you end up with only one in control, no matter which one, then everything slows down.</p>\n<p>The thing that would be perfect would be a nice distribution of market share.... 5 operating systems or so, each gaining a market share above 10%.</p>\n<br class=\"clear\" />', created = 1411265055, expire = 1411351455, headers = '' WHERE cid = 'filter:1:a3f51cda0cf1562ed6c0fc2eebad3a14' in /home/dowdle/public_html/montanalinux/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 121.
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I wrote a comment to an LWN news blurb referring to a story about the future of Linux was in Google Chrome OS. The post was so long that I decided to cross post it here. :)

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I assume you (the person on LWN who wrote the comment I was replying to) were being sarcastic when you said that 10-20 million Linux desktops don't count. I'd argue that the numbers are actually larger than that (probably by as much as 2x) but let's stick with a medium number of 15 million... for my discussion below.

Some people want commercial software on Linux, some don't. I attended the Utah Open Source Conference 2009 in Oct. and attended a presentation by a big wig from Adobe where he talked about FLOSS and Adobe. Of course the usual question came up about when will we get Photoshop and various other Adobe products for Linux and the answer was something like, "when there are enough Linux users to guarantee sales of at least 50 million copies". That is a rather high hurdle. Seriously, you have to sell 50 million copies of something before it becomes profitable? What a poorly run company you must have.

But seriously, there are enormous opportunitities in a number of software genres for FLOSS shareware... or FLOSS support funded development. Educational software for K-12, games, small business apps.

The truth is that there is a huge software catalog currently available for Linux any anyone who has been using it knows that. There are some bald spots but those are where many of the opportunities lie.

We believe in the Open Source development model and I also believe in Free Software... and yes there are a number of viable business models available for those groups who can find good business-minded leaders.

Mac hardware sales (especially laptops) have supposedly fluctuated up and down over the last few years. Yes, Mac OS X has poached some Linux users. Anyone who has been to a Linux or FLOSS oriented conference can tell you a significant number of presenters seem to be on Mac laptops... but the good thing about that is how stubborn Apple is. They will only allow Mac OS X to run on their hardware, which is very limited in the variety of hardware components they ship. Mac OS X's growth potential is limited to the number of computers Apple can make and sell. While for a single hardware company they do very well compared to folks like HP and Dell (not talking servers or netbooks of course), a significant portion of their income comes from iPods, iPhones, and the iTunes Music Store. Their concentration on their computers has waned and I don't see that changing unless they finally decide to offer Mac OS X on non-Mac hardware. I don't see that happening... mainly because of the barriers that exist making it work with a larger variety of hardware that exists in the generic PC market. Apple seems to have basically thrown in the towel with regards to servers.

Apple computers are really just another hardware platform targeted by Linux.

I don't really care if Linux ever goes "mainstream". I've been using it as my primary desktop since 1995 and it has gotten so good these days... and as long as it continues to progress, that is all I care about. I have fears that if Linux ever does go mainstream, I'll have to suffer as it is dumbed down for computer novices... but luckily with the number and variety of Linux distros that are out there, that probably won't be a problem.

I really don't want to have to deal with masses of computer newbies asking me Linux questions and expecting free support... because I'm a Linux guy... and giving free support to friends is what I've been doing for years anyway.

The reality is that 1-5% of the desktop market share actually is a significant number of computers and a large userbase. If Nintendo can make a fortune on the Wii... with about the same userbase as Desktop Linux, why can't software vendors? I realise that with consoles, hardware diversity doesn't exist and that the hardware diversity that exists in the generic PC market is a barrier for some software (particularly games and multimedia apps) but come on. Many FLOSS projects have accepted the challenge as well as a handful of companies... but it would be great if more commercial FLOSS could fill in the cracks.

Of course the other major barrier that exists is getting more OEMs to offer Linux as an option on more of their hardware... and not to charge more for it.


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Apple's Business Plan

I agree with your idea about Apple; they should allow users to run OSX on whatever hardware platform they want, as long as they legally own the software. I guess they just don't want to have to deal with the large variety of generic PC hardware that's out there, and would rather consolidate hardware/software development (as they have always done in the past). However, I believe many PC users would choose OSX over Win7 given a choice.

What Apple could do is market a separate PC Edition of OSX (so as to consolidate hardware support into this edition and leave their reliable Apple-only OSX untouched), then use their traditionally strong PR department to ensure strong retail sales of this version of OSX and recoup their obviously heavy development costs. It would be an ingenious move.


Its true that we have only a

It is true that we have only a small number of Linux users in the world.... but we must also consider that the number of Linux users are increasing day by day! The future might be a Linux only world...... :D


Linux Only World? I certainly hope not...

It's only because of the constant competition from their peers that all the operating systems keep getting better. When you end up with only one in control, no matter which one, then everything slows down.

The thing that would be perfect would be a nice distribution of market share.... 5 operating systems or so, each gaining a market share above 10%.


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